tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post7147608721540070521..comments2024-01-17T14:15:06.388-05:00Comments on Jorge Says No!: Should the Brewers Trade For Jake Peavy?Jorge Says No!http://www.blogger.com/profile/04358737179481087781noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-62913280589522646422009-05-24T03:40:28.277-04:002009-05-24T03:40:28.277-04:00I would agree that Braun is the franchise player i...I would agree that Braun is the franchise player in MKE, but Prince is not too shabby and probably - at this point - is a more complete hitter than Ryan. <br /><br />As for dealing Gamel + Escobar? That's crazy talk. CC - a pitcher on the same level as Peavy (stuff-wise) - got LaPorta. That's - count 'em - 1 top prospect. <br /><br />I'd be perfectly fine dealing Escobar/Hardy, Peralta, PTBNL for Peavy so long as the crew can afford it. DO NOT TRADE GAMEL though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-58605742768181481682009-05-24T01:17:28.145-04:002009-05-24T01:17:28.145-04:00Prince Fielder is not the face of the franchise......Prince Fielder is not the face of the franchise...Ryan Braun is. Plus I would put Escobar as the main part of the deal because yes, Escobar has great defense, but Hardy is a good defensive SS plus he has a good Stick. Escobar and some lower level pro propects for Peavy...Make the Deal happen Doug Melvin!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-12301973319322920412009-05-23T18:37:32.131-04:002009-05-23T18:37:32.131-04:00There is no way Milwaukee will deal Gamel or Escob...There is no way Milwaukee will deal Gamel or Escobar. Gamel will replace Prince at first (because he can't play third) after this season and Escobar will start at SS next year with JJ moving to third or being dealt. And don't forget, the team is in first right now without Peavy. They may not need to add him and his massive contract to make the playoffs this year. A more plausible move, if they want a starter, would be getting someone like Bedard (less money and potential compensation picks when he leaves) for a package of Salome and someone like Gillespie or Green. But Gamel and Escobar aren't going anywhere, unless the Padres eat a chunk of Peavy's salary, which defeats the purpose of trading him.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149980785129147322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-92025133654048079132009-05-23T18:04:16.082-04:002009-05-23T18:04:16.082-04:00Fielder is a free agent after the 2011 season. htt...Fielder is a free agent after the 2011 season. http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/milwaukee-brewers.html<br /><br />Peavy would be a great fit in Milwaukee and I believe Milwaukee is the type of city that would be a good one to raise your kids, which is important to him.<br /><br />I also think that with all the contracts that end with the 2009 season in Milwaukee and the group of young players ready to fill those positions, the team could easily afford him and fill the holes.<br /><br />The only question is can they put a package together that the Padres would like and I think the answer is yes.<br /><br />A package that included Escobar, Jeffress, LuCroy or Salome and one or two pitching prospects like Romanski or Peralta should get the deal done. The Brewers might have to throw in a Villanueva or Parra instead of Romanski or Peralta, but that is still very doable.<br /><br />I say call the GM's and get the deal done. Peavy couldn't turn this one down so if the GM's float it, it will get done.WebSoulSurferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385605335746684528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-78131282191698247482009-05-23T16:30:41.714-04:002009-05-23T16:30:41.714-04:00You seem to have forgotten that Prince was eligble...You seem to have forgotten that Prince was eligble for arby for the first time this past offseason. That means that two years of arby bought out and then a third year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-57769388132492429552009-05-23T16:04:44.317-04:002009-05-23T16:04:44.317-04:00Prince is a FA after 2010, not 2011! He only sign...Prince is a FA after 2010, not 2011! He only signed a two year deal. 2009 and 2010!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-78556427909961406652009-05-23T10:46:36.538-04:002009-05-23T10:46:36.538-04:00If the Brewers' FO just makes an offer our clown F...If the Brewers' FO just makes an offer our clown FO will accept it because they're thinking about the money more than the prospects. <br /><br />You could probably get Jake for a future #3 a bust of Cecil Cooper and a case of Miller....Jake would just have to accept and with Trevor there he probably would.AvengingJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15614670048677175431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-4796466105462209972009-05-22T16:58:30.081-04:002009-05-22T16:58:30.081-04:00If the Brewers are serious about winning, they wil...If the Brewers are serious about winning, they will go after Peavy. The Padres could also throw in David Eckstein to cover the loss at 2B.<br />You can trade Hardy, Hart, Weeks, but how many true aces are out there on the market?<br />You get what you pay for, and it should not be inexpensive to land a Cy Young player (and person) in the prime of his career.<br />I bet Peavy would love to get reuinited with Hoffy. <br />Escobar and Gamel must be a part of the package + pitching I would guess...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12971477979547986260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-41169646381830471592009-05-22T16:47:11.175-04:002009-05-22T16:47:11.175-04:00Let's not forget, we're still on the hook for Supp...Let's not forget, we're still on the hook for Suppan's $12MM in 2010 as well. $27MM for two pitchers next year for a small market team would be a lot. Also keep in mind that for Hardy, Weeks, Gallardo and/or Hart (pick a couple of them), it's going to be long-term contract time.HHHTheGamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08997236350739216908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-84718626193031243492009-05-22T16:13:39.441-04:002009-05-22T16:13:39.441-04:00Prince is an FA after 2011, not 2010.Prince is an FA after 2011, not 2010.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-76446734278671965062009-05-22T11:38:50.023-04:002009-05-22T11:38:50.023-04:00Very good points.Very good points.tHeMARksMiThhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16445834941960575715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1153099884472898149.post-55664353561062130792009-05-22T11:38:18.365-04:002009-05-22T11:38:18.365-04:00There's a lot to like about the prospect of Jake P...There's a lot to like about the prospect of Jake Peavy pitching in Milwaukee (the least of which being that he won't be pitching in Chicago). And there's a lot of reasons why the Brewers would be able to make the deal (and why they should make the deal), including the depth of their farm system, the fact that they're "so close", and the impending departure of Prince Fielder. I can only imagine that Peavy's contract is hanging over everything, though.<br /><br />Yes, it's a good deal for someone of Peavy's level, but it's still $64 mil over the next three years. The $8 mil this year would probably be doable, though it would strain their pursestrings a little. The $15 mil next year (and then $16 mil and $17 mil) could be really difficult to manage, though. Yes, they are one of the few franchises with increasing attendance/income, and yes, a successful postseason would certainly help all of that. Still, it's a pretty big commitment for a small market team, and I can easily see Attanasio and Melvin worrying about it.<br /><br />As a Brewer fan, I'm not sure where I sit. The pros and cons are both compelling, and I'd uderstand either way. I guess if I had to make a choice, I'd lean a little away from the deal, just because I suspect that we could find a suitable 80%-Peavy pitcher for a better price. In the end, though, I think Melvin has made enough good moves to earn the benefit of the doubt. If he makes the trade, then he and Attanasio must feel that the net gain is positive for the club. and, if he doesn't make the trade, they must see it as doing more harm than good for the franchise down the road. I'm okay with them making that choice...larhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314820003835656973noreply@blogger.com